We start off with Gov. Reynolds’ veto of the eminent domain bill. We discuss the reasons for the veto, including what the governor said, and what she doesn’t want to say. Also, what kind of political ramifications might this end up unleashing between the governor and the republicans who helped pass the bill? This may also hamper the governor’s agenda, especially property tax relief, going into the next session; Then, as promised, we discuss the 2026 governors race for the state. We have one new democrat and one new republican in the race, Julie Stauch and Eddie Andrews, respectively. We dive in to each of their chances running against better known candidates. We wrap up with what we’re working on, including Laura’s deep dive at Bleeding Heartland on the democrats’ chances in statewide races overall in 2026. Happy Father’s Day, and thanks for watching/listening/reading!
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Dave Price (00:00:02):
Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Iowa Down Ballot podcast.
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I am Dave Price, joined by Kathie Obradovich and Laura Belin.
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We need to start this week.
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By the way,
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today is Friday the 13th,
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and if I can do a personal point of privilege here,
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I was engaged on Friday the 13th.
Kathie Obradovich (00:00:20):
Hey, turned out to be a lucky day for you.
Dave Price (00:00:23):
Yeah, I need to have my wife on here and see if she would say that it was lucky for her.
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We'll see.
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I hope she still feels that way.
Laura Belin (00:00:30):
In Russia, it's Monday the 13th that's unlucky, not Friday the 13th.
Dave Price (00:00:34):
Okay.
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Hey, let's begin with the veto heard around the world, or at least within our borders.
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I don't know that this would come as a surprise.
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Perhaps there are some out there who thought that somehow...
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Governor Kim Reynolds was going to veto this complicated bill that dealt with
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eminent domain when it came to the carbon sequestration pipeline.
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I feel like though that, I mean, the whole process was confusing, right?
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Because some people probably looked at that as it was this anti-pipeline bill.
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It was gonna save all the landowners.
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It was far more complex than that.
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Which one of you wants to begin by saying that you were shocked with the veto?
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Perhaps Kathy's cat.
Kathie Obradovich (00:01:18):
No, yeah, Samo's joining us today.
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We'll see if he weighs in on any of these.
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He's not surprised by much.
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And, you know, I felt like she could have gone either way.
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So I can't say I'm truly surprised by the veto.
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But the fact that she's leaving office, to me, potentially neutralized the special interest of
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part of this where one of her biggest donors,
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Bruce Rastetter,
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is owning Summit Carbon Solutions,
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and obviously their relationship goes back a long way.
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But that loyalty sometimes doesn't survive when somebody is getting ready to leave
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office and not running again.
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In this case, I think it did.
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Also,
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I mean,
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I think that there were some legitimate issues in the drafting of the bill that
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gave her,
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I think,
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an excuse to say what she said in her veto message,
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which is that she is concerned about landowner rights,
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but that she felt like this legislation would have...
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a variety of unintended consequences,
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including to an ethanol producer whose pipeline project had actually signed up all
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of its easements without having to resort to eminent domain.
Dave Price (00:02:49):
And the horse is out of the barn on this, right?
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I mean,
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this would have been,
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perhaps this is less complicated had Summit not already received permission for
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eminent domain,
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right?
Laura Belin (00:03:02):
Well, they did, but
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On the other hand,
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they can't start building the pipeline until the route is approved in both North
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Dakota and South Dakota,
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and they're having real trouble in South Dakota.
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So I think, I mean, I was very confident all along she would veto the bill.
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I was only surprised that some of the key House Republicans like Stephen Holt went
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out publicly and said that he felt he was confident that the governor would sign.
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I thought that was maybe a little bit of wishful thinking to throw out there.
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But not only was Bruce Rostetter a big donor to her campaigns, but
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Her mentor,
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Terry Branstad,
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to whom she owes pretty much her entire political career,
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is a senior policy advisor or whatever his title is.
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He has some kind of a title position within Summit Carbon Solutions.
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So I just never saw any real possibility that she would veto the bill.
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I think that it was complicated.
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There were a couple of different bills that the House sent over to the Senate.
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This was the one that was really complex that included a lot of different
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provisions related to pipelines and the Iowa Utilities Commission.
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And then there was a second bill that was very short that was similar to what South
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Dakota enacted that just would have said,
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you can't use eminent domain for a hazardous liquid pipeline that's carbon dioxide,
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basically just a one or two paragraph bill.
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And that was the one that
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that the Senate Republicans made sure not to vote out of committee or rather the
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Mike Boussolo,
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the chair of the Senate Commerce Committee.
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He kept that one bottled up in committee and then move forward on this more
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complicated one that they thought they were going to be able to amend to their
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liking.
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And they ended up stuck with this House bill that the governor raised a number of
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questions about it.
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It was very predictable.
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that she's not going to come out and say, oh, I would never go against my big campaign donor.
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So she could point to other things and say,
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this could affect different pipeline projects,
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this could affect eminent domain.
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And I thought,
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as a little bit of window dressing there,
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I thought it was interesting that she said in her veto message that she's
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instructing the Iowa Utilities Commission to enact some of the reforms that the
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bill would have called for,
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like saying that all of the commissioners have to be present,
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at evidentiary hearings and that at least one of them has to be present for an
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informational meeting,
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which is something that a lot of the landowners were upset about.
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The Utilities Commission has already sent out an order basically announcing that
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they're enacting that and thanking the governor for her timely suggestion.
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But here's the thing.
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The governor was sitting up there in her office the entire legislative session
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And, you know, including the past four years when they've been debating this bill.
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I just one thing I don't understand is why she didn't make her opinion known sooner
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than a veto message.
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I mean, I think.
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you know,
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given the serious fissures in the Republican caucus that this caused and the bad
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feelings and the kind of ugly debates and things that have been said that can't be
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unsaid.
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I mean, it seems like she could have headed off some of this by just saying, look,
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You know,
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this pipeline is important to Iowa,
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and I'm not going to clip it,
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you know,
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this far along into the process.
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And she chose not to do that.
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And so I do understand,
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and not to step on Dave's next question,
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but the really angry response that we're getting from the Republicans who were,
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you know,
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in favor of this bill.
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I wonder, though, is there, I totally understand what you're saying.
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But did she not think she needed to?
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And by that,
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I mean,
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first of all,
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a couple of months ago,
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she still thought she was running for reelection.
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Maybe she didn't want to touch it.
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But had it not been for the defiant dozen,
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the dozen Republican senators who decided,
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heck with it,
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we're going public with everything.
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We're taking this out of our closed door caucus complaints and we're going full
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bore out on the Senate floor and we're going to talk to reporters and all kinds of
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stuff.
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Did she think comfortably, though, that
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successfully senate republican leadership buried this for years despite what house
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republicans were doing did she think maybe she didn't have to and they would keep
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making sure that this never saw the light of day and were it not for
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Those initially 12 Republican senators that forced the issue,
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maybe it wouldn't have had they not gone public with this.
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It's probably still what this would have never made it to the Senate floor for debate.
Kathie Obradovich (00:07:45):
There was still time,
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though,
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between the fact that between those 12 Republicans coming out and saying,
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look,
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this bill comes to the floor.
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We're not voting for any of the appropriations bills.
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And the fact of the bill coming up for a vote.
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So,
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I mean,
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she could have made her opinion known that might have actually persuaded some
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Republicans in the Senate to vote against it,
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you know,
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rather than take what could be a bad vote for them at some point in their political
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future if they want donations from Bruce Rastetter.
Laura Belin (00:08:17):
Oh, I think the opposite.
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I think it's bad for them if they
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If they voted against the bill,
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that's bad for their future because they could face primary challengers.
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But I agree with the premise of Dave's question,
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though,
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that there was a probably a pretty good bet.
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I certainly didn't think that those dozen senators would hold together and be able
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to force this thing to the floor.
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I thought leadership would be able to pick off a few with promises of this or that
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other bill moving forward and that
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the governor would never have to take any public position on this bill.
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So I think that that could be very reasonable.
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But as for what's better for the legislators,
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I mean,
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man,
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a lot of South Dakota legislators,
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Republicans lost to primary challengers because they didn't come out against
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eminent domain for this pipeline.
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All right, now, Kathy almost stole my next question.
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And I already had a pre-thought joke to set this up.
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So as a punishment,
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Kathy,
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instead of Laura,
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which is the way I had this set up in my mind,
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Kathy will have to respond,
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what are the percentage chances that on Thanksgiving,
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Kim Reynolds and Bobby Kaufman will be sharing a meal?
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I think it's more likely that they will be going at each other with the cutlery.
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So Bobby Kaufman said in print,
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and I think the Gazette published this quote,
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that her agenda is essentially DOA,
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and he's going to do everything he can to kill every bill with her name on it.
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So angry is he about her veto.
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So several of the other House Republicans did make similar statements.
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And I do totally agree with what Laura said.
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House Republicans are scared of the reaction,
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not just from potential primary challengers,
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but also just how the voters are going to respond to this in their districts.
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There are some districts that are really seriously affected by pipelines.
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Not every district.
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And senators, half of them have a little cushion.
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They don't have to run with this in their backyard in 2026.
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Some of them can wait two years or more.
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So I think some of these Republicans are genuinely terrified.
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And that's probably where we're getting...
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Some of this really heated response,
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but I do question,
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you know,
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how many of them will really follow through and does this seriously damage Kim
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Reynolds' chance to have any sort of meaningful legislation next year?
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I think it probably could.
Laura Belin (00:11:08):
It could,
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but I just want to say that Bobby Kaufman,
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I mean,
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he's the House Ways and Means Committee Chair.
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He's also the son of Jeff Kaufman, the state party chair of the Iowa GOP.
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And he's very angry right now,
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but he's going to need to work with the governor to get,
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for instance,
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property tax changes through next year.
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That's something they won't be able to avoid.
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some degree of collaboration on.
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And he's not going to bring down the entire Republican agenda because he's angry
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with the governor over this vote.
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I mean, he has been a little bit of a grandstander on this issue in general.
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And so,
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I mean,
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I was a little bit surprised by the tone,
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but I wasn't surprised that he was one of the first out there to be commenting to
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different media about it.
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But we'll see.
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I think that her big energy bill
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I wouldn't put any money on her getting that energy bill through the legislature next year.
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I think she's pretty much poisoned the well on that.
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So you could say that LS Power,
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which has been fighting against that provision that benefits the electric
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utilities,
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the investor-owned utilities in Iowa,
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MidAmerican and Alliant,
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they were really hoping for that governor's energy bill to be passed.
Laura Belin (00:12:19):
And I think that it's in pretty big trouble now.
Dave Price (00:12:23):
You know,
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the I was thinking reading and listening and watching all of the responses,
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particularly on the House side,
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how angry they were at the governor.
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Part of me was wondering, did you really think she was going to sign this?
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And maybe some of them genuinely did, I guess.
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Um,
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So that part surprised me because I just didn't see any way that she was going to
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sign this based on everything we've heard and everything she has not said publicly.
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It just felt like all along that was the out when Republican leadership in the
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Senate got pushed into a corner by the dozen and then decided,
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all right,
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we've got no hope because if they're not going to support the budget,
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we're kind of screwed here.
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So they gave in, had the vote, kept trying a different few ways.
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It didn't happen.
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Democrats helped.
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And then I think it was 13 Republican senators in the end, wasn't it?
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They went for it.
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So they got it passed.
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But then they,
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you know,
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they knew,
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I figured they knew all along that the governor was going to veto this.
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I've just been taken aback by how strong.
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Not just Bobby Kaufman,
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but Steve Holt and now Speaker Grassley starting the petition to get the special
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session,
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which would take two thirds of the members,
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though,
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in both chambers to override a veto.
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So it's not going to go anywhere in the Senate.
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But he's still going forward with something here.
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I mean, he could.
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He doesn't have to do that part.
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So how damaged is that relationship between the two of them where they've had
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issues for a couple of years straight on some significant issues.
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Does that carry over?
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Does everybody chill out before next January?
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But I mean,
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I have to wonder that the governor's last year in office,
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what is that going to look like with these frayed feelings and how long
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Do these feelings last?
Laura Belin (00:14:15):
And then the Senate Ways and Means Chair,
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Dan Dawson,
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was very upset at particularly one of that defiant dozen holdouts,
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Mark Lofgren.
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They got in a shouting match on the last day of the legislative session.
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But Democratic State Representative J.D.
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Scholten raised this issue during that very last debate.
Laura Belin (00:14:33):
Dave, you and I were up all night at the press bench and
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They were debating that very last budget bill, and J.D.
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Scholten stood up and said,
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how do we know that if we pass this budget that the governor won't veto the eminent
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domain bill?
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So I had heard a few people speculate that if they wanted to pressure her to sign
Laura Belin (00:14:51):
it,
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the House Republicans should hold out on the budget,
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but they didn't do that.
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so i don't know i mean i don't know if it was just kabuki theater or if they
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convinced themselves somehow that that she was going to sign it i i never i i'm
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with you it to me it was always very obvious she would veto and then also the
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relationship with the 12 maybe 13 but particularly the 12 and how that works with
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senate leadership if
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leadership remains the same in the Senate for the next legislative session.
Dave Price (00:15:22):
Again,
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many months before then,
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but- It doesn't really,
Kathie Obradovich (00:15:25):
to me,
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this doesn't add up to a really super productive election year legislative session.
Dave Price (00:15:32):
Despite one party control?
Kathie Obradovich (00:15:35):
I learned early on that the safest bet on the legislature is for them to do nothing.
Kathie Obradovich (00:15:41):
It is the easiest, easiest thing for them to do.
Kathie Obradovich (00:15:44):
But, you know, it seems like that it might be even safer bet than normal here going into 2026.
Laura Belin (00:15:54):
I agree, except that they've painted themselves into a corner on this property tax thing.
Laura Belin (00:15:59):
It's so complicated.
Laura Belin (00:16:00):
They've made so many promises that they're going to fix it,
Laura Belin (00:16:03):
and now I think they can't afford to come out completely empty-handed on it,
Laura Belin (00:16:09):
and yet these relationships are so frayed.
Laura Belin (00:16:11):
I mean, the House and the Senate Republicans didn't communicate well or get along well anyway.
Laura Belin (00:16:17):
I heard...
Laura Belin (00:16:18):
After that eminent domain debate in the Senate,
Laura Belin (00:16:20):
which a number of House Republicans went over to the chamber to watch,
Laura Belin (00:16:24):
I mean,
Laura Belin (00:16:24):
I saw House Republicans just speaking with contempt about how some of the senators
Laura Belin (00:16:31):
had conducted themselves.
Laura Belin (00:16:32):
I saw somebody give a big hug to the Democrat,
Laura Belin (00:16:36):
Tony Bisagnano,
Laura Belin (00:16:37):
who had stood up and given a speech calling out the Senate Republican leadership on
Laura Belin (00:16:42):
it.
Laura Belin (00:16:42):
I mean, so it's, I mean, the,
Laura Belin (00:16:45):
That is not pretend.
Laura Belin (00:16:47):
That's for real.
Laura Belin (00:16:47):
There there is a lot of hostility, a lot of negative feeling between those two caucuses.
Laura Belin (00:16:53):
So I don't know.
Laura Belin (00:16:53):
But they've got to come up with something next year on property taxes.
Dave Price (00:16:57):
And of the not to belabor this,
Dave Price (00:16:59):
but the top two in each chamber,
Dave Price (00:17:02):
the top two Republicans,
Dave Price (00:17:04):
will those be the same?
Dave Price (00:17:08):
when 2026 begins.
Dave Price (00:17:10):
You have Pat Grassley,
Dave Price (00:17:11):
the Speaker,
Dave Price (00:17:12):
Matt Winchittle,
Dave Price (00:17:13):
the House Majority Leader,
Dave Price (00:17:15):
and then on the Senate side,
Dave Price (00:17:16):
you have Jack Whitver and Amy Sinclair.
Dave Price (00:17:20):
Well,
Dave Price (00:17:20):
all of those pieces,
Dave Price (00:17:21):
I mean,
Dave Price (00:17:23):
obviously,
Dave Price (00:17:24):
we're all hoping that Jack Whitver's health can somehow improve with what he's
Dave Price (00:17:29):
battling with cancer here,
Dave Price (00:17:30):
so that's the most important thing,
Dave Price (00:17:31):
and I don't want to be
Dave Price (00:17:33):
dismissive of the most important part of this.
Dave Price (00:17:36):
But maybe more so, so hopefully that stays, he's able to continue.
Dave Price (00:17:42):
On the House side,
Dave Price (00:17:43):
but let's say that Windchettle runs for Congress in the fourth,
Dave Price (00:17:46):
does he choose to remain as majority leader for the next session?
Dave Price (00:17:50):
Or does he step away from that to focus more on his congressional run?
Dave Price (00:17:55):
So does that help with the dynamics here?
Dave Price (00:17:57):
Does Pat Grassley decide to run for governor?
Dave Price (00:18:00):
Maybe that's
Dave Price (00:18:01):
That feels less likely than Winchittle running for Congress, but that's another dynamic there.
Dave Price (00:18:06):
And would it benefit Grassley to do both things at the same time,
Dave Price (00:18:10):
run for governor and keep that high profile seat in the speaker's chair?
Laura Belin (00:18:15):
I don't think Grassley, he's not running for governor.
Laura Belin (00:18:18):
I don't see it.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:19):
I agree.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:20):
But also, I think Matt Winchettel is a stabilizing factor in the House.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:26):
He, as majority leader, really has made the trains run on time.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:32):
Say what you want about his politics or his
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:36):
His demeanor doesn't really love talking to the press, for example, but he is ultra organized.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:43):
He knows how to move legislation.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:47):
He's very efficient.
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:49):
I don't know to what extent he gets involved in the dynamic with the Senate or if
Kathie Obradovich (00:18:58):
he's focused on his job,
Kathie Obradovich (00:19:00):
which is to move bills through the House.
Kathie Obradovich (00:19:02):
But
Kathie Obradovich (00:19:03):
I would say him stepping away from leadership,
Kathie Obradovich (00:19:08):
if he in fact would do that,
Kathie Obradovich (00:19:10):
might make things worse in the House.
Laura Belin (00:19:12):
I think that whether he stays in leadership really depends on how crowded that
Laura Belin (00:19:18):
fourth congressional district primary is,
Laura Belin (00:19:21):
because that's a district where the Republican primary is basically the election.
Laura Belin (00:19:26):
I mean, the winner of the Republican primary will almost certainly be elected in November.
Laura Belin (00:19:31):
And so he can't afford to be,
Laura Belin (00:19:33):
tied up in the House if there are three or four people really working hard and
Laura Belin (00:19:37):
trying to run for Congress.
Laura Belin (00:19:39):
But if he mostly clears the field,
Laura Belin (00:19:41):
if it's Matt Winchettel against a couple of people with much lower name ID,
Laura Belin (00:19:47):
he might stay in leadership.
Laura Belin (00:19:48):
But it seems to me that it would be very difficult to do that job of majority
Laura Belin (00:19:53):
leader while you were running a congressional campaign if you had real competition
Laura Belin (00:19:58):
in the primary.
Laura Belin (00:19:58):
And that's why
Laura Belin (00:19:59):
Jennifer Confer stepped down as House Minority Leader to focus on her run for Congress.
Laura Belin (00:20:05):
There would really be no way to do those jobs simultaneously.
Kathie Obradovich (00:20:08):
The fundraising obligation alone for a leadership position in the legislature,
Kathie Obradovich (00:20:16):
along with trying to run for another office,
Kathie Obradovich (00:20:18):
would be,
Kathie Obradovich (00:20:19):
I would think,
Kathie Obradovich (00:20:20):
overwhelming.
Dave Price (00:20:22):
Okay, we need to fulfill a delayed promise from last week.
Dave Price (00:20:28):
So thanks to both of you for helping me to do that.
Dave Price (00:20:33):
Last week, I teased that we were going to talk about
Dave Price (00:20:37):
two of the new candidates for the race for governor, one Democrat, one Republican.
Dave Price (00:20:42):
We got going on all kinds of stuff that was happening, shot past our pre-planned time.
Dave Price (00:20:48):
So we kind of did a timeout there to bring it over to this week.
Dave Price (00:20:52):
And I think a lot of the points will still be the same here.
Dave Price (00:20:54):
They're still relevant.
Dave Price (00:20:56):
All right, so let's start with the Democrats.
Dave Price (00:20:59):
So Rob Sand, the state auditor, will have a Democratic opponent, Julie Stouch.
Dave Price (00:21:05):
Laura, you just wrote about this, and you've talked to Julie.
Dave Price (00:21:10):
Julie's been around for a long time,
Dave Price (00:21:11):
done tons of campaigns from the operative,
Dave Price (00:21:14):
the strategist side,
Dave Price (00:21:16):
both in our state and beyond our borders,
Dave Price (00:21:19):
local,
Dave Price (00:21:20):
state,
Dave Price (00:21:20):
presidential.
Dave Price (00:21:21):
She's done tons of stuff and goes way, way back to caucus and before then even.
Dave Price (00:21:28):
How do you see her fitting into this?
Dave Price (00:21:31):
She doesn't bring the big money that Rob Sands' family brings into this.
Dave Price (00:21:36):
And it's non-traditional, right?
Dave Price (00:21:38):
I mean, she's not coming as a previous office holder.
Dave Price (00:21:41):
She's coming as a staffer.
Dave Price (00:21:43):
So what's this dynamic like?
Laura Belin (00:21:46):
I think this is a real challenge for her because this is not like the third
Laura Belin (00:21:50):
congressional district primary where you have Jennifer Converse and Sarah
Laura Belin (00:21:53):
Trongariot kind of starting out on basically equal footing.
Laura Belin (00:21:56):
You've got Rob Sand,
Laura Belin (00:21:57):
who,
Laura Belin (00:21:58):
although he is not the governor,
Laura Belin (00:21:59):
he is a statewide elected official and
Laura Belin (00:22:02):
That's kind of a natural progression for people who already hold statewide office
Laura Belin (00:22:07):
to run for governor.
Laura Belin (00:22:08):
And so to me, it feels more like the dynamic of an incumbent versus a primary challenger.
Laura Belin (00:22:13):
And so right now,
Laura Belin (00:22:14):
I think Julie Stouch,
Laura Belin (00:22:16):
the challenge for her is going to be how does she reach people beyond just the
Laura Belin (00:22:20):
group of Democrats who don't like Rob Zand,
Laura Belin (00:22:23):
which
Laura Belin (00:22:24):
There are quite a few of them, but that's not the majority of the Democratic Party.
Laura Belin (00:22:27):
So how do you run against someone who's so much better known,
Laura Belin (00:22:30):
whose campaign is so much better funded,
Laura Belin (00:22:33):
and who has already won two statewide elections?
Laura Belin (00:22:36):
I think that's what she really needs to work on.
Laura Belin (00:22:39):
And right now, her message is she's not trying to focus on running against him.
Laura Belin (00:22:44):
She's trying to focus on running her own race,
Laura Belin (00:22:45):
but it's difficult because they're not starting out on even footing.
Kathie Obradovich (00:22:50):
I mean,
Kathie Obradovich (00:22:50):
I think that the people that she has worked for in the past,
Kathie Obradovich (00:22:54):
including Pete Buttigieg's campaign in 2020,
Kathie Obradovich (00:22:58):
going back to Bill Clinton in 96,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:01):
at Dukakis in 88, and then more recently, Mike Franken in 2022.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:06):
I mean,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:07):
I do think she probably does have a national Rolodex in terms of fundraising and
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:13):
wouldn't be able to raise some money.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:14):
I would guess though,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:16):
I mean,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:17):
we all know who Julie is,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:18):
but the average person,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:20):
if they know her at all,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:21):
they would just know her probably for being a spokesperson for Planned Parenthood
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:25):
of the Heartland.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:28):
And that even that has been a while back.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:30):
The other thing I was a little bit puzzled by her announcement.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:35):
I mean,
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:35):
she did mention some issues she's interested in water quality and public schools
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:40):
and health care and protecting eminent domain.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:42):
But she also kind of made a point of.
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:45):
Putting out a resume and saying she's applying for a job and that she's going to go
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:52):
out and listen to Iowans and potentially change her focus if what she hears is
Kathie Obradovich (00:23:58):
different from voters and what she's coming out with.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:01):
And that strikes me as being a little bit like Christy Vilsack's campaign in the
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:06):
fourth district.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:08):
A few years back where she,
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:09):
you know,
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:10):
she was she was she didn't have a strong,
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:12):
a really strong Democratic agenda.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:16):
She was going for kind of middle ground.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:19):
And I don't think she ended up really pleasing people on either side of the aisle that way.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:24):
So.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:25):
I'll be interested in seeing how Julie's agenda kind of evolves.
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:31):
And if she does come out with a really strong suggestion, or at least,
Kathie Obradovich (00:24:39):
list of things that she would want to do as governor.
Laura Belin (00:24:43):
Rob Sand hasn't talked about the water quality or reproductive rights very much.
Laura Belin (00:24:48):
So he's certainly not emphasizing those issues.
Laura Belin (00:24:50):
So that could potentially be an opening for her to reach Democrats who care about them.
Dave Price (00:24:57):
The way she's launched early to me strikes me as a difficult thing
Dave Price (00:25:04):
balance in that you are trying to show that you're receptive to people.
Dave Price (00:25:09):
You know, like Kathy stole my thunder with Christy Vilsack.
Dave Price (00:25:13):
That's immediately who I thought of when I was listening to all of this.
Dave Price (00:25:17):
And it was also challenging because Christy Vilsack didn't live in the district.
Dave Price (00:25:22):
So that was a whole thing she had to deal with answering questions about that too.
Dave Price (00:25:25):
But
Dave Price (00:25:27):
so you want to be receptive and show that you're receptive and i'm out there
Dave Price (00:25:30):
listening to you what's on your mind all that kind of stuff but then the balance is
Dave Price (00:25:34):
you're also running for essentially ceo of the state and so people want to know
Dave Price (00:25:39):
your vision and your leadership skills and all of that so it's unique to me about
Dave Price (00:25:46):
the approach it just seems really challenging to figure out how to make that how to
Dave Price (00:25:51):
make that case and make that balance to people
Laura Belin (00:25:54):
I want to mention for people who may not remember the context that in 2012,
Laura Belin (00:25:59):
after the redistricting,
Laura Belin (00:26:01):
Iowa,
Laura Belin (00:26:02):
what was then the second district covering most of Southeast Iowa was like a
Laura Belin (00:26:07):
perfect district for Christy Vilsack,
Laura Belin (00:26:09):
who grew up in Mount Pleasant.
Laura Belin (00:26:10):
I mean, and Dave Lopsack lived, Dave Lopsack and Bruce Braley were both in the first district.
Laura Belin (00:26:15):
So Dave Lopsack actually had to move to Johnson County to be in the second district.
Laura Belin (00:26:20):
So
Laura Belin (00:26:21):
I thought Christy Vilsack would run for Congress there.
Laura Belin (00:26:23):
I thought she had a really good chance of beating Loebsack in a primary,
Laura Belin (00:26:26):
and she would have absolutely been elected at that time.
Laura Belin (00:26:29):
But instead, she didn't want to challenge Loebsack in that primary.
Laura Belin (00:26:33):
And so she moved to Ames,
Laura Belin (00:26:35):
Story County,
Laura Belin (00:26:35):
which was part of the fourth district,
Laura Belin (00:26:37):
so that she could run against Steve King,
Laura Belin (00:26:39):
which to me just seemed like a suicide mission.
Laura Belin (00:26:43):
I was very surprised that she did that.
Laura Belin (00:26:44):
So in any case, she was not successful in running against Steve King in 2012.
Laura Belin (00:26:49):
But that was the reference for
Laura Belin (00:26:50):
people who may not have been following Iowa politics then.
Dave Price (00:26:54):
I wonder then,
Dave Price (00:26:55):
does that put increased pressure on Julie quickly to Kathy's point about she may
Dave Price (00:27:01):
have a national Rolodex as she has raised money for others?
Dave Price (00:27:05):
Does she then,
Dave Price (00:27:06):
and I guess I'm thinking a little bit of Deidre DeGear,
Dave Price (00:27:08):
totally different situation,
Dave Price (00:27:10):
but
Dave Price (00:27:11):
Deidre did not raise a ton of money early on,
Dave Price (00:27:14):
and then it seems like that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that then some of
Dave Price (00:27:19):
the check writers are looking at it like,
Dave Price (00:27:21):
well,
Dave Price (00:27:21):
she doesn't have a lot,
Dave Price (00:27:23):
this may not be a good investment for us,
Dave Price (00:27:26):
and then she was really,
Dave Price (00:27:27):
really outspent.
Dave Price (00:27:29):
So does that raise the pressure on Julie to use the connection she has,
Dave Price (00:27:35):
and while she's not going to be able to match what Rob did early,
Dave Price (00:27:39):
at least,
Dave Price (00:27:40):
you wouldn't think,
Dave Price (00:27:41):
she has to show something to show that she's competitive here otherwise she's kind
Laura Belin (00:27:45):
of in a bind well they don't have to release any fundraising numbers until next
Laura Belin (00:27:49):
january yeah that's a good point she can announce whatever she has raised but she i
Laura Belin (00:27:55):
mean i think it's going to be difficult i felt like it was a little bit of a
Laura Belin (00:27:59):
passive aggressive move for the rob sand campaign to come out with a pete buddha
Laura Belin (00:28:03):
judge endorsement right after sand announced before julie stouch announced but
Laura Belin (00:28:09):
to have Pete Buttigieg out there publicly saying he supports Rob Sand for governor.
Laura Belin (00:28:14):
And Julie was his political director before the 2020 caucuses.
Laura Belin (00:28:19):
So obviously he worked closely with her.
Laura Belin (00:28:22):
So I don't know how well the national network is going to come through for the fundraising.
Dave Price (00:28:30):
Okay, let's switch to the Republicans.
Dave Price (00:28:32):
Eddie Andrews, state representative from Johnston.
Dave Price (00:28:36):
during the legislative session before it ended he was talking about that
Dave Price (00:28:41):
possibility one thing that really struck me during his announcement speech was that
Dave Price (00:28:46):
he said this out loud that he had he didn't identify the person but he had said
Dave Price (00:28:51):
that he had been during the session
Dave Price (00:28:54):
talking to some talking to somebody this unnamed person and they prayed about the
Dave Price (00:29:00):
the idea of Eddie Andrews running for governor at the time Kim Reynolds was still
Dave Price (00:29:05):
officially running thought it was an interesting story to say publicly to begin
Dave Price (00:29:10):
with but where does he fit into all of this and
Dave Price (00:29:20):
Does he really try to lean in?
Dave Price (00:29:22):
I feel like somebody in this race is going to lean in hard to the pipeline now.
Dave Price (00:29:26):
Maybe I'm going to be wrong about this because Feinster is not going to do this.
Dave Price (00:29:29):
I mean, he's not going to go against the pipeline and, you know, has not been super strong.
Dave Price (00:29:35):
than specific when he's talked about it.
Dave Price (00:29:38):
So that would seem to open a lane for somebody to go full in in a primary to be
Dave Price (00:29:43):
like,
Dave Price (00:29:44):
I'm against all this,
Dave Price (00:29:44):
we're going to stop this,
Dave Price (00:29:46):
blah,
Dave Price (00:29:46):
blah,
Dave Price (00:29:46):
blah,
Dave Price (00:29:46):
blah,
Dave Price (00:29:46):
blah.
Dave Price (00:29:47):
And Eddie's talked about it a little bit.
Dave Price (00:29:49):
It's sort of not his,
Dave Price (00:29:51):
he's not in the right part of the state where it directly impacts him since he's in
Dave Price (00:29:55):
the Des Moines metro.
Dave Price (00:29:56):
But does he embrace this?
Dave Price (00:29:58):
And is he the one to charge forward?
Dave Price (00:30:00):
Or is there another path for somebody else to get in?
Laura Belin (00:30:02):
Brad Sherman's already doing it.
Laura Belin (00:30:04):
He's been talking about it for months,
Laura Belin (00:30:05):
and he's got probably at least half a dozen of those legislators who really push
Laura Belin (00:30:09):
for that bill have already endorsed Brad Sherman before Eddie Andrews even got into
Laura Belin (00:30:15):
the race.
Laura Belin (00:30:16):
So I'm not sure.
Laura Belin (00:30:17):
I mean, Eddie Andrews hasn't been a huge fundraiser.
Laura Belin (00:30:19):
I don't know how he's going to be able to compete in a statewide primary.
Laura Belin (00:30:23):
I thought the most interesting thing that he said was that some unnamed group
Laura Belin (00:30:28):
supposedly had committed to spend...
Laura Belin (00:30:31):
Seven figures on his behalf,
Laura Belin (00:30:33):
which I couldn't tell if he meant as an independent expenditure or what he was
Laura Belin (00:30:37):
talking about.
Laura Belin (00:30:38):
I don't know who that would be.
Laura Belin (00:30:40):
But even, you know, a million dollars, that sounds like a lot.
Laura Belin (00:30:43):
But honestly,
Laura Belin (00:30:44):
he's going to be competing against people in the primary who are going to spend
Laura Belin (00:30:48):
well over a million dollars.
Laura Belin (00:30:49):
So I'm not sure how it's going to work for him.
Kathie Obradovich (00:30:52):
You've got a candidate from suburban Des Moines who also would be running against
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:00):
Mike Buslow,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:01):
who's also from the suburban Des Moines era area.
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:06):
Andrews was very narrowly reelected in Johnston.
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:10):
He's got a Johnston,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:11):
sort of Urbandale,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:13):
Saylorville,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:13):
so sort of north suburbs,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:15):
just north of Des Moines.
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:17):
He only won with 51%.
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:21):
So I thought that was interesting.
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:23):
One of the things he kind of takes credit for is trying to work on the mental
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:30):
health workforce in the state,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:31):
trying to expand
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:33):
psychiatric residencies in the state,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:36):
which I think,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:37):
you know,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:37):
that's a that's a great accomplishment to mention the governor,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:41):
you know,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:41):
the governor kind of could take a lot of credit for that as well.
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:45):
But but I think,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:48):
you know,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:48):
when you think about Eddie Andrews,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:50):
you know,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:51):
if he hadn't mentioned that,
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:52):
I would have probably had a hard time coming up with a big signature
Kathie Obradovich (00:31:57):
piece of legislation that he's accomplished while he's been in the legislature.
Kathie Obradovich (00:32:02):
And if he hadn't been sort of talking a little bit about running for governor
Kathie Obradovich (00:32:06):
before the session ended,
Kathie Obradovich (00:32:07):
I would have been saying,
Kathie Obradovich (00:32:08):
okay,
Kathie Obradovich (00:32:10):
I'll take candidates we didn't see coming for 200 days.
Kathie Obradovich (00:32:12):
Mm-hmm.
Laura Belin (00:32:15):
One thing he didn't mention in his announcement was that he was one of the House
Laura Belin (00:32:19):
Republicans who voted against the Area Education Agency's bill.
Laura Belin (00:32:24):
And I don't think that that's something that he'll probably want to highlight in
Laura Belin (00:32:27):
the campaign,
Laura Belin (00:32:28):
but that might be a way that he could set himself apart from the other
Laura Belin (00:32:31):
others in the field.
Laura Belin (00:32:32):
I don't think that those changes are popular.
Laura Belin (00:32:35):
I think they're going to really negatively affect especially rural schools.
Laura Belin (00:32:39):
And that sense of,
Laura Belin (00:32:41):
I'm someone who's not afraid to stand up to my own party,
Laura Belin (00:32:44):
which is something we hear occasionally from candidates,
Laura Belin (00:32:47):
I feel like that could be an issue.
Laura Belin (00:32:49):
But I don't think that he will mention that issue.
Laura Belin (00:32:51):
But to me, it's something that stands out about him.
Laura Belin (00:32:54):
They did try to make an electability
Laura Belin (00:32:56):
argument for him at his launch event.
Laura Belin (00:32:59):
I mean,
Laura Belin (00:33:00):
he is the only Republican legislator to win a district that Biden carried and also
Laura Belin (00:33:05):
the only one to win a district that Kamala Harris carried.
Laura Belin (00:33:08):
So I don't completely discount that.
Laura Belin (00:33:11):
But as Kathy mentioned, it's not like he won by some overwhelming margin.
Dave Price (00:33:15):
All right, let's take us over the finish line.
Dave Price (00:33:17):
Laura, I know there's one other thing you wanted to bring up before we wrap.
Laura Belin (00:33:21):
I'm working on something, hope to publish it this weekend, just about the math.
Dave Price (00:33:24):
You can't hope to publish it.
Dave Price (00:33:26):
You're teasing it now.
Laura Belin (00:33:27):
Now I'm committed to it.
Laura Belin (00:33:29):
Okay, I'm committed to it.
Dave Price (00:33:30):
Because we always come through with things we tease, Dave.
Dave Price (00:33:32):
Yeah, seriously.
Dave Price (00:33:34):
Maybe a week later, but we come through.
Laura Belin (00:33:36):
I talked to a lot of people about how Fred Hubble only lost the 2018 governor's
Laura Belin (00:33:41):
race by about 36,000 votes.
Laura Belin (00:33:43):
And that year was pretty good midterm for Democrats.
Laura Belin (00:33:45):
They flipped to congressional districts in Iowa.
Laura Belin (00:33:49):
And so I hear people say, oh, you know, this is another Trump midterm.
Laura Belin (00:33:52):
And so I'm going to really focus on how hard the math is for Democrats in 2026 in Iowa.
Laura Belin (00:33:58):
The situation, the Republican voter registration advantage is way, way more than it was in 2018.
Laura Belin (00:34:04):
And
Laura Belin (00:34:06):
the Republican turnout advantage is really significant.
Laura Belin (00:34:08):
So I'm going to really try to dig into those numbers and look at different
Laura Belin (00:34:12):
scenarios for different levels of turnout.
Laura Belin (00:34:14):
I just don't know if the numbers are there right now for Democrats to win any of
Laura Belin (00:34:20):
the statewide races,
Laura Belin (00:34:21):
including the U.S.
Laura Belin (00:34:21):
Senate race.
Laura Belin (00:34:22):
So that's going to be the focus of my piece.
Dave Price (00:34:25):
Kathy, do you want to tee up?
Kathie Obradovich (00:34:28):
I think I'm just going to make plans to read Laura's piece this weekend.
Kathie Obradovich (00:34:34):
Now that you've asked me, my mind is completely blank on what we're working on.
Dave Price (00:34:44):
A mystery is okay, too.
Kathie Obradovich (00:34:46):
Yeah, tell everybody to read Laura's.
Dave Price (00:34:49):
We'll all come through with something.
Dave Price (00:34:50):
We always do.
Dave Price (00:34:52):
Thank you all.
Dave Price (00:34:53):
Have a great weekend.
Laura Belin (00:34:54):
You too.
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